tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post1969489233982732961..comments2024-01-25T09:28:56.610+00:00Comments on Confessions of a skeptic: Misleading the inspectors?Jonathan Westhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00527063732905729010noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-4960984023917307202011-11-21T07:22:43.856+00:002011-11-21T07:22:43.856+00:0019.13 - the challenge is that paedophiles are draw...19.13 - the challenge is that paedophiles are drawn to schools because they are target rich, and being a school permits the perpetrator unsuspicious engagement with children which is vital to ultimate ends. The challenge for all non perpetrators is that paedophiles do not wear badges. <br /><br />The man who abused me was very much the ladies man. So what? What one mother never knew was that while she was being bedded by the man, and he was telling me the acts he performed upon her which meant absolutely nothing to me, he was abusing one of her sons.<br /><br />And how old was I? Eleven. <br /><br />So 19.13 - this provides you with an insight into matters of which you may have no experience given your most recent contribution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-55161705215505919532011-11-17T19:13:21.244+00:002011-11-17T19:13:21.244+00:00Ever heard of having a little faith? you know, whe...Ever heard of having a little faith? you know, where you trust someone? Or does everyone here require proof that everyone who ever comes into contact with them is not a paedophile?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-34607731646142592442011-11-17T17:28:19.663+00:002011-11-17T17:28:19.663+00:00@19:40
You say, "there have not been any cas...@19:40<br /><br />You say, "there have not been any cases in the last 10 years at the school. Doesn't this suggest that it is safe?"<br /><br />If you look at pages 15, 16 and 17 of Lord Carlile's report you will see that he has listed the dates when offences occurred and the dates when those offences were reported. Typically victims waited 30 years before making a complaint.<br /><br />On that basis, if crimes have been committed at the school during the last 10 years we will probably not hear about them for decades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-38189851676282342562011-11-17T11:03:10.489+00:002011-11-17T11:03:10.489+00:0020:39
If the incident had been as you described, a...20:39<br />If the incident had been as you described, and had been reported to the LADO, the LADO would have written back and said that this didn't merit detailed investigation by social services. And yet we know that a detailed investigation was carried out.<br /><br />It might be that the incident you described did happen, but if it did, it wasn't what triggered the Social Services investigation.Jonathan Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00527063732905729010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-83419875300287778202011-11-17T10:59:17.431+00:002011-11-17T10:59:17.431+00:00@11:19
It was in the evidence given at his trial....@11:19<br /><br />It was in the evidence given at his trial.<br /><br />He admitted to an incident in Italy for which he could not be prosecuted as it took place outside UK jurisdiction, he also admitted to being sexually attracted to boys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-56908488464014821002011-11-16T20:39:34.320+00:002011-11-16T20:39:34.320+00:00Ok, believe what you will. I agree that wouldn'...Ok, believe what you will. I agree that wouldn't merit calling in social services normally, but if the school didn't, some people would accuse it of cover up incidents of abuse. And that's an all too familiar circle of events isn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-89946944951499905932011-11-16T20:37:10.681+00:002011-11-16T20:37:10.681+00:0020:17
No, I'm pretty certain that story has be...20:17<br />No, I'm pretty certain that story has been made up. I have been told by what I regard as reliable sources what the real issue was, and it wasn't that. That would hardly have merited the LADO calling in Social Services for an investigation with a considerable number of interviews.Jonathan Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00527063732905729010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-10998410906512079102011-11-16T20:17:35.154+00:002011-11-16T20:17:35.154+00:00I do not intend to dwell on the technicalities of ...I do not intend to dwell on the technicalities of the last Pearce case. However I do wish to dwell on the events of 2010. I am lead to believe that this 'allegation' came after the following conversation: (and that no charges were pressed...)<br />______________________________________<br /><br />Two girls messing around in class.<br /><br />Girl 1: "Sir, I think you should slap her" [referring to other girl]<br /><br />Teacher: "Believe me, I would very much like to."<br />______________________________________<br /><br />Abuse? Really?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-39608178541773762052011-11-16T20:02:23.524+00:002011-11-16T20:02:23.524+00:0019:40
Actually there have. I know you will argue t...19:40<br />Actually there have. I know you will argue that Pearce's last victim, although a pupil of the school wasn't abused in the school. But I regard that distinction as sophistry. But even leaving aside that point, there was a case reported in the summer term of 2010.<br /><br />Paedophiles will be paedophiles, and the school is only as safe as the procedures designed to detect them. Even today, there are still significant shortcomings which have been pointed out to the school by child protection experts and which have not been corrected.Jonathan Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00527063732905729010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-69918199930355563312011-11-16T19:40:08.053+00:002011-11-16T19:40:08.053+00:00Hobbs is not a self confessed paedophile. Because ...Hobbs is not a self confessed paedophile. Because he has been placed on the list does not make his a paedophile, it means that the systems in place in this country believe that this man poses a threat. They interpret his alleged actions as paedophilic. Interpretation is an interesting word, don't you think.<br /><br />Anyway, there have not been any cases in the last 10 years at the school. Doesn't this suggest that it is safe?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-35626371679260989822011-11-16T19:11:17.005+00:002011-11-16T19:11:17.005+00:00Where did you hear that from with regards to Fr. S...Where did you hear that from with regards to Fr. Stan Hobbs (last post)?<br /><br />I'd like to put the record straight on Father Gervase Benedict. He is absolutely sound, always was, left the abbey to get married (probably because he saw what was going on), as did Fr. Anthony. They was at least two goodies!!OPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-90709793539412160642011-11-16T16:25:51.233+00:002011-11-16T16:25:51.233+00:00@20:52
Hobbs is a self confessed paedophile, that...@20:52<br /><br />Hobbs is a self confessed paedophile, that is why he is on List 99.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-15743696052558144532011-11-15T21:52:13.750+00:002011-11-15T21:52:13.750+00:0020:52
It would seem that you think that the only t...20:52<br />It would seem that you think that the only thing needed to assure the safety of children is to see if somebody has been convicted.<br /><br />I beg to differ. So does the government and every safeguarding expert I have spoken to or read.<br /><br />There would be no need for List 99 (which Hobbs has been placed on by the way).Jonathan Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00527063732905729010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-80393340454728155312011-11-15T21:03:45.065+00:002011-11-15T21:03:45.065+00:00I think, if you actually took the time to talk to ...I think, if you actually took the time to talk to him, you would understand that Mr. Cleugh is an honest man who is having to deal with issues that he did not create, nor play any part in. If he said that the school co-operated, it did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-50956753517084089212011-11-15T20:52:37.303+00:002011-11-15T20:52:37.303+00:00Fr. Stanislaus was acquitted of all charges...
*S...Fr. Stanislaus was acquitted of all charges...<br /><br />*Sharp intake of breath through teeth*<br />- that's a bit awkward for you...<br /><br />Furthermore, As were many of the others in your long list of accusations not convictions. Please make this clear - they were accused not convicted. Don't forget that corporal punishment was legal in those days, and so several of these accusations are probably interpreting the actions under the different laws of the time, under today's laws.<br /><br />Please try to get the facts right and to present a balanced argument. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-70550586059335478962011-11-15T17:13:44.017+00:002011-11-15T17:13:44.017+00:00There are certainly questions that require an answ...There are certainly questions that require an answer and I have heard that they have already been asked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-14540978579492068852011-11-15T09:09:36.990+00:002011-11-15T09:09:36.990+00:00.
Hmmm. It pongs..<br />Hmmm. It pongs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com