tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post2204736381134834526..comments2024-01-25T09:28:56.610+00:00Comments on Confessions of a skeptic: Latest news on Ealing AbbeyJonathan Westhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00527063732905729010noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-5810495977264026292010-01-05T17:12:27.859+00:002010-01-05T17:12:27.859+00:00Elephant in abbey/parish/school room. DP's las...Elephant in abbey/parish/school room. DP's last victim was systematically groomed for the last couple of years of his time at St Bs ..... for going into monastery. He used to say he would become abbot - not his own idea I suspect. There is collusion and cover up wherever you look at St B's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-64954375165647889102010-01-04T20:10:35.095+00:002010-01-04T20:10:35.095+00:00I'm doing what I can. Not everything I do gets...I'm doing what I can. Not everything I do gets blogged here. But it is beyond my power singlehandedly to make sure that the school is safe - for your children or anybody else's. If you want to send your children to the school and ensure that they will be safe, then contact me by email at jonathanwest22@googlemail.com, and we will see what we can achieve together as a group.<br /><br />The dreadful stories coming out of Ireland and elsewhere attest to what can happen if power is allowed to become and remain unaccountable.<br /><br />Ultimately it comes down to a question of whether deference to the authority of the church is more important to you than assuring yourself of the safety of your children. I can't decide that for you.Jonathan Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00527063732905729010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-7781673767297608522010-01-04T19:15:00.896+00:002010-01-04T19:15:00.896+00:00ANYTHING FOR A QUIET LIFE…?
The last contributor ...ANYTHING FOR A QUIET LIFE…?<br /><br />The last contributor makes a very good but, to me, disturbing point. It forces me to ask: do I honestly want to send my boy to a school run by people clearly in it for themselves and who cannot, it seems, be held to account by anyone? Not even the Charity Commission! <br /><br />To pose such a question, of course, is to answer it. But, unfortunately, answering it presents one with a load of very nasty practical problems; problems no parent wishes, in the normal run of things, to have to face. So, in the end, the real question becomes: 'To collude or not to collude'? Or, to put it another way, do I become just another ‘Abbot Shipperlee’ or, whatever the personal cost, find the courage of my convictions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-18858525445184805662010-01-04T18:33:31.867+00:002010-01-04T18:33:31.867+00:00"I so wish we could shame them. However I adm..."I so wish we could shame them. However I admit that it's not obvious just how this could be done...hard to see it happening. But it's just a thought born out of frustration"<br /><br />There's a lot of frustration of one sort or another registered on this blog. But it boils down I think to the fact that people who seem able to get away with almost anything and remain unaccountable to anyone are left unscathed and ruling the roost. This cannot be right. The above contributor is correct - this is neither a fit way to run a school nor a fit example to set before our kids!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-2792468311960933582010-01-04T15:46:55.507+00:002010-01-04T15:46:55.507+00:00Maybe the above contributor is right, but the comm...Maybe the above contributor is right, but the commission certainly wants to see the Abbey’s promised investigation take place and will, I suspect, make sure the Abbey keeps its promise in this regard. <br /><br />Among things that need to be investigated are, not only the accusations made against David Peace, but those made against other members of staff monastic or otherwise. We have read on this blog, for instance, accusations made against Lawrence Soper but how many more such accusations were there? In fact, Abbot Soper was removed not because of offences committed in the school, though clearly there was at least one such offence, but because of accusations made against him elsewhere. <br /><br />The worst aspect of this whole saga is the abject willingness of the Abbey to cover up for just about anyone and anything that might affect its own status. It clearly has no moral sense, over and above such considerations, whatsoever! <br /><br />Such an institution is, as many contributors have pointed out, simply not fit to run a school of any sort.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-12212320355777628262010-01-04T14:51:39.857+00:002010-01-04T14:51:39.857+00:00(I sent you a personal email 17 Dec - hope it reac...(I sent you a personal email 17 Dec - hope it reached you OK. It does not require any answer, but I was just unsure if it had made it!!)<br /><br />Anyway, in that I rambled on about the Shipperlees of this world, and how much I hold them in comtempt. Reading above I find myself shaking my head at how the only apparent path to hold anyone to account (except for the man now in prison) is the Charity Commission! Yes,they seem to be doing a good job in making sure that charitable funds are not being misused - and good for them. While I concede that this may be the only line of "attack", it seems sad that that is all there is. Frankly I do not much care what the church does with money that people have willingly given it, I have to say. Sure, they should not use it to protect the DPs of this world, but then they should not use *any* sort of money to do that!<br /><br />As I mentioned in my email, DP was known, or at the very least suspected, by many many people (teachers, previous abbots, etc.) to be a low-level child-abuser. Yet none of them did a damn thing about it.<br /><br />I so wish we could shame them. However I admit that it's not obvious just how this could be done...<br /><br />Given the length of time he was active, I think it highly likely that a significant number of children must have mentioned him to teachers, either directly or via parents. It would be interesting if such "leads" could be traced and put to the school, with a demand that the lack of action be explained.<br /><br />I know - hard to see it happening. But it's just a thought born out of frustration at the fact that, as we all know deep down, this Charity Commission side of things will eventually fizzle out...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-92097799169792016562010-01-04T13:52:43.089+00:002010-01-04T13:52:43.089+00:00Exactly! But, could it just be that in dealing wit...Exactly! But, could it just be that in dealing with this Abbot we're actually up against what is described, elsewhere, as 'a non-empirical construct'? I can certainly imagine, with reference to that same neck of the woods, that the Quixotic Master Shipperlee sees himself as a remarkable SOLOCONTROTUTTI.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-59807043789299212522010-01-04T13:24:21.823+00:002010-01-04T13:24:21.823+00:00The above is obviously a rhetorical question. But,...The above is obviously a rhetorical question. But, I suspect, the non-rhetorical reply from just about everyone is - <br /><br /> 'No one, but no one, can trust the man'!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-48457236179672296952010-01-03T16:20:56.747+00:002010-01-03T16:20:56.747+00:00An excellent update thank you.
The Charity Commis...An excellent update thank you.<br /><br />The Charity Commission Report greatly advances our knowledge of what was really going on at Ealing. It is clearly the result of a thorough investigation by the Commission.<br /><br />I see they mention Abbot Martin's long-promised Independent Report:<br /><br />"58. The Commission has requested a copy of the independent review and will actively monitor the Charity to ensure that this happens."<br /><br />I am glad to see they state they are actively monitoring the Charity to ensure that Abbot Martin does commission this Independent Report. Don't they trust him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com