tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post4559056576409027454..comments2024-01-25T09:28:56.610+00:00Comments on Confessions of a skeptic: Abused: Breaking The SilenceJonathan Westhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00527063732905729010noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-56049005920347251532011-07-15T12:53:39.370+01:002011-07-15T12:53:39.370+01:00The topic is once again under discussion on that b...The topic is once again under discussion on that blog but I do not feel inclined to comment except perhaps to remark that his church's web page still does not appear to have the safeguarding procedure guidelines that were discussed. At least I haven't found them so far.<br />I will see if anyone else takes this up but it may be a lost cause and simply set the blog counter rolling to no useful purpose.<br />He said he found the discussion " fascinating" but clearly not sufficiently serious to take action as advised (unless I have missed a link somewhere).Annenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-74163674745845529862011-07-01T16:57:22.329+01:002011-07-01T16:57:22.329+01:00I have followed the blog comments and found the &q...I have followed the blog comments and found the "Dulwich" remarks an example of detracting from the message by attacking the messenger.<br />I considered jumping to your defence but was glad when you replied with such dignity.<br />Your consolation is that your message HAS got through and your comments have been published and widely read online.Annenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-88066158737543856572011-06-30T09:22:08.101+01:002011-06-30T09:22:08.101+01:00Well done! (Your comment and the reply this mornin...Well done! (Your comment and the reply this morning ) I'm amazed these recommendations are getting through.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-10117829499726505632011-06-28T12:18:36.140+01:002011-06-28T12:18:36.140+01:00Anne,
I think I might be doing some good. I don&...Anne, <br /><br />I think I might be doing some good. I don't really expect to persuade those who are so set against what I say that they resort to name-calling.<br /><br />The people I was hoping to persuade are those who read Fr Ray Blake's blog and really want the abuse scandal to come to an end. Hopefully some of them may be moved to action and start working at getting effective safeguarding procedures put in place for their own parish.<br /><br />As for those who resort to name-calling, I'm not too bothered about them. In doing so, they expose the poverty of their own arguments for all to see.Jonathan Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00527063732905729010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-55883212609028468472011-06-28T11:57:07.180+01:002011-06-28T11:57:07.180+01:00I hope you have seen my supportive comment on anot...I hope you have seen my supportive comment on another blog and will not rise to the bait of certain others. A pointless endeavour.<br />I have to agree with your commenter John.<br /><br />When blogs resort to personal attack it is a sign that the debate is exhausted. An example of this are the endless inane comments on newspaper blogs.<br />Your comments have been noted and valued and it is now up to the author of the blog in question to make a concluding remark or close a post that is no longer productive.<br />Regards.Annenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-18065315033028882362011-06-27T08:33:34.025+01:002011-06-27T08:33:34.025+01:00If you are looking for historical background on pr...If you are looking for historical background on procedures this below is helpful. Ignore the dramatic title this IS sound research from Australian broadcasting.<br /><br />http://youtu.be/hJ1_aQz6IuUMikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-83991583677907294762011-06-23T12:25:31.435+01:002011-06-23T12:25:31.435+01:00Greetings.
The commenters to the priest's blog...Greetings.<br />The commenters to the priest's blog seem to be reverting to the "blame the liberals" argument. <br />I do thank you for your tremendous contribution.<br />My obsevations have shown me that we have reached the limit of reasoned, informed debate when the extreme "traditionalists" resort to personal remarks like "obsession".<br />Myself, and others, express our gratitude to you for all you have said on this horrible subject.<br />Regards.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-26877189369933103162011-06-22T00:36:03.801+01:002011-06-22T00:36:03.801+01:00One cannot help but notice a thankfully rare signa...One cannot help but notice a thankfully rare signature posting from an Abbeyvista.<br /><br />Any minute it will be posting to its alter ego. Brace yourselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-33148662343286198252011-06-22T00:07:38.492+01:002011-06-22T00:07:38.492+01:00tut tut, needs approval...........tut tut, needs approval...........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-89330932677181847332011-06-21T16:18:18.171+01:002011-06-21T16:18:18.171+01:00It's just his ulcers!It's just his ulcers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-62895406301588535312011-06-21T13:03:27.852+01:002011-06-21T13:03:27.852+01:00Abbot Martin will not wish to upset Greg; he's...Abbot Martin will not wish to upset Greg; he's got a big bark and bites as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-25759331865869815332011-06-21T09:03:51.717+01:002011-06-21T09:03:51.717+01:00Thank you. Much appreciated.Thank you. Much appreciated.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-18220499360003840592011-06-20T22:03:22.520+01:002011-06-20T22:03:22.520+01:00A post on another blog blamed all the woes of the ...A post on another blog blamed all the woes of the Church on "liberalism".<br />A lively debate followed with a couple suggesting that liberalism was not to blame but the subject you are discussing.<br />The priest blog, on learning about the BBC programme, posted on the frailties of human nature and of priests in particular.<br />I wonder if you would contribute to the debate with your erudition please. You will speak for many who lack your skills of expression.<br /><br />The site is: <br /><br /> Father Ray Blake's Blog<br /><br />Thank you.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6518202135348193859.post-75970957165008009702011-06-19T17:11:05.251+01:002011-06-19T17:11:05.251+01:00Father Gregory Chillman is currently under a restr...Father Gregory Chillman is currently under a restrictive covenant. According to Peter Turner (Diocesan Safeguarding Advisor), Father Gregory is banned from any public ministry, according to the ISI he is barred from any contact with children.<br /> <br />It is totally unacceptable that Father Gregory is allowed to continue to reside at Ealing Abbey given it's proximity to St Benedict's School and given Abbot Martin's poor record at policing monks under restrictive covenants.<br /> <br />If Abbot Martin and Mr Cleugh (St Benedict's Headmaster) have the least regard for the welfare of the children at the School, they should ensure that Father Gregory is removed from the Abbey without any further delay. They might also find time to make a statement explaining why parents at St Benedict's Safeguarding Meeting last September were told that "almost all" of the restrictions on Father Gregory had been lifted, when according to Peter Turner the covenant remains in force on the terms originally imposed. They might also list the names of any other monks resident at Ealing Abbey who are under restrictive covenants and publish the terms of those covenants so that parents, school staff and parishioners would be in a stronger position to protect pupils from potential abuse.<br /> <br />The first recommendation in the ISI's supplementary report on St Benedict's read, "Ensure that any staff or members of the religious community live away from the school, if they are subject to allegations of misconduct related to safeguarding or convicted of wrongdoing". Given the ISI's recommendation and given the School's lamentable safeguarding history, it is difficult to understand why Father Gregory is still in residence nearly a year later. It is as if no lessons have been learnt at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com