Pearce and Maestri are scheduled to appear at Isleworth Crown Court on 31 January on charges of sexually abusing a former pupil of St. Benedict's School.
The start time and court number won't be known until tomorrow. I'll update this post when I have more details.
UPDATE: Pearce and Maestri will be appearing at Isleworth Crown Court on the
afternoon of 31 January to face three charges of indecent assault under
the Sexual Offences Act 1956.
The trial will be held in court 7.
The exact starting time has not been decided but I am told that
proceedings will not begin before 1400hrs.
Thursday, 27 January 2011
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ReplyDeleteWow, great work Jonathan! You’ve managed to post this same info now for what…the 10th, 11th or 12th time? Talk about flogging dead horses! Your surroundings must be well and truly fetid by now. Try stepping out for a breath of fresh air once in a while. Go on...don't be scared, it's life enhancing you know!
Wow 11.04 what a great example of pot calling kettle black. You seem to spend all your time just waiting to pounce, not with a substantive response to any thing Mr. West posts, but a snide and cynical put down. Maybe you should think about your own advice and take a breather oncce in a while.
ReplyDeleteWow 16:37 are you suggesting Mr West is in reality a dead horse? Albeit a metaphorical one, of course? What exactly, beyond what was said at 11:04, would represent a 'substantive response'? Given that it was simply a factual comment, I really can't see why you're so horribly upset? Perhaps, you'd like to elucidate?
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Reporting fact is now wrong because it is repetitious according to 11.04 and his alter ego 17.14.
What this (not very bright) troll means is that writing anything critical about the moral bankrupts masquerading as a religious order, who occupy Ealing Abbey is to use his words - flogging a dead horse!
He sees no evil, hears no evil, while his spoken bile pours over the metaphoric pages of this blog uncensored, except for those instances where he is determinedly trying to use the site to prejudice the forthcoming trial of two of his former colleague teachers on charges of child sexual abuse.
In the previous strand he asks vacuous kindergarten questions designed to cause trouble. These incompetent attempts have us all groaning and in the next breath, he labels prudent moderation of comments that could prejudice a criminal trial as “censorship.” Dim and dimmer – the owner of every publication does the same but the bile of this man must out because he is so contorted with his hatred of our criticism.
Dear Sir,
Do us all a favour – we know your opinion of this site because you have expressed it many times. You are not interested in child welfare because you are used to the status quo i.e. the sexual abuse of ‘available’ children by some of the adult staff of a certain disposition being tolerated by a biddable administration. But the ‘outside’ world has now found out about the practices of your closed community, and finds these past protocols unacceptable and a breach of the rights of the child.
You meanwhile, see the potential non-abuse of children in future as a breach of the rights of monks and other staff who share an unhealthy interest in the young.
The reason you cannot stay away from this site, despite your repugnance of it, is that you feel compelled to defend what you clearly love, the morally confused religious (?) order that has sexual abused children for decades. For your mental health I suggest you stay away from here – you are not going to see a change in direction from those who regularly post on this sight and who find child sexual abuse repugnant. I can only speak for myself when I say that my criticism of your Trust will only stop when right is done for the children who attend St Benedict’s.
Sleep well.
I agree 11:04 the stock in trade of this blog is, most certainly, repetition. Endless repetition! No one I imagine thinks Ealing Abbey is everything it should be, but trawling through its history, listing just about every monk who was ever there, in the hope that some more dirt will be thrown up is, to say the least, deeply unsavoury. But, God help us, Mr West and his supporters seem to wear their shoulder chips as badges of honour.
ReplyDelete11.04 / 17.14 / and now 18.57 - one and the same. He arrives on this site and posts to himself - bless him. So lonely is he in his posting that he has to do this to feel part of a group of complainers. The Abbeyvistas invariably arrive, and leave together!
ReplyDeleteNothing if not consistent and unsubtle.
This could of course be Bazza Hudd - he of the pompous request to fire ' a shot across West's bow!'
But it is more likely a teacher from the swamp that is St Benedict's, with a nod of approval from Super Abbot.
You don't like the site but you keep posting - you need mental help. This is not logical, and your comments suggest you need assistance sooner rather than later.
Our Don Quixote @ 19:33 is getting singularly hot under the colour. If a point or points have been made clearly and well, there is no need to repeat them. The information that sits at the head of this thread, for example, has been proffered time and again. To what end? It surely doesn't amount a 'substantive' contribution or meaningful criticism, not least of those dismissed @18:54 as 'moral bankrupts'. This kind of outrage indicates not so much the valiant pursuit of truth, which is always commendable, but sheer desperation. Of what exactly - beyond those 'not very bright trolls' with the temerity to queer your pitch - are you guys in such despair? It would seem, once again, that you ire can be satisfied by nothing short of a lynch mob?
ReplyDeleteWhile dismissing the comments at 11:04 / 17:14 / and 18:57, 19:33 seems remarkably exercised by them. If one dislikes something, one can always ignore it. Or is 19:33 insisting that anyone he disagrees with or who disagrees with him cannot post on this blog? He talks about the ‘Super Abbot’, but what kind of tyranny does he represent I wonder?
ReplyDeleteOnce more and s-l-o-w-l-y for the excitable teacher -
ReplyDeletePearce and Maestri are scheduled to appear at Isleworth Crown Court on 31 January on charges of sexually abusing a former pupil of St. Benedict's School.
One can see from this statement/charge that the two former teachers, one a monk, appear to have sexually abused the same pupil.
(Slowly now - too many facts will prompt another wild outburst about Japan!? or possibly Prestatyn?!)
This is not a repeat of any former posting, this is merely the stage the court process has reahed for these two former St Benedict’s teachers.
(I really think this is dangerously close to too much detail)
And if you think this is not substantive then be in court on Monday morning. Neither of your former colleagues will think this particular part of the court procedure unsubstantive be assured.
(Too many syllables, its all too much, he’ll be in overload. Strikingly unpleasant are these people from St Benedict’s, yet still they return to the site they so hate to make contributions that demonstrate the sickness that lies at the heart of the place. He makes no attempt to deny he would prefer the old protocols remain! )
PRESTATYN - TAKE COVER!
Several posters miss the point about ‘the opposition'. They imagine a small, anxious group of teachers, monks and lawyers spitting nails at them for uncovering 'the truth'. But ‘the truth’ is out there for all to see and, thanks to due process, will gradually unravel! I suspect most of the critique comes from those, like me, who do not believe that ‘the truth’ resides exclusively with one party and others who wish to poke a little fun at a great deal of arrogance and glazed-eyed obsession. But, ‘blogging’, we’re told, couldn’t exist without the efforts of the ever-so-slightly unbalanced. If that is so, the ‘opposition’ might just as well save their energy and leave them to it for these people need to feel they have the upper hand and that whatever they say is unassailable.
ReplyDelete- N.M.
if you are all ex-pupils of st.benedict's, you obviously missed the spelling lessons. "hot under the colour", "reahed, "you ire", "post on this sight" oh dear oh dear, see me in my study later!
ReplyDeleteThose are typos and essential to all good emailing and blogging. They're not 'spelling mistakes' as such, merely the result of over hasty fingers getting ahead of one. Come on, no one would actually write 'you ire' in a more formal setting, now would they? Not even a St Benedict's boy. :-)
ReplyDeleteah, i see but when one is "hot under the collar" a little slowing down of the fingers produces the correct spelling and thus more impact to the comments being made. otherwise it all looks a bit "daily mail" (no pun intended!)
ReplyDeletePoint taken, 11:58. Thanks for being our 'independent' 'guardian' - none of us, I suspect, would like to be classed along with the 'daily mail'. Perish the thought!
ReplyDeletethat's more like it! let's keep up with the "times" and "mirror" society as it is today. i in no way intend to devalue the free speech in this blog but as an op myself, i feel some balance needs to be kept or we will all be classed as "daily males" (sic)
ReplyDeleteOh dear, 12:39, for a second time, you’ve reminded me of a hoary old joke. To wit:
ReplyDeleteQ: Why was Oscar wild?
A: Because he didn't get his Daily Mail.
Groan!
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I prefer Viz.
Like me, 12:39, you seem to be something of an optimist. However, attempts to bring a measure of balance to this blog seem, at times, to come horribly close to the labours of Sisyphus.
ReplyDeleteDo tell us more 14:38?
ReplyDeleteN.M. it is interesting to see you are also part of that ‘slightly’ unbalanced world to which you refer. But this is a lazy description of blogging which has been in this case so productive, as few can argue. Even Carlile has asked Mr West to publicise certain matters for him.
ReplyDeleteAnd a subject like child abuse tends be debated vigorously because those who have fortunately managed to side step abuse have little understanding of the permanent challenge it presents on so many levels to the child victim who hopefully becomes a surviving adult. I have seen this on another blog which had 350,000 readers at its height. Supercilious comments from subject illiterate contributors prompted a vigorous riposte from those who to their cost were experts in child abuse.
ooh er missus!
ReplyDeleteThe late Alan Clarke (c. Ken and Chelsea), he of a graveyard full of skeletons in his closet, was a subscriber to Viz.
ReplyDeleteso? aren't we veering off the point a bit here. commendable though it was of clarke to subscribe to viz, i don't think even the bloggers here can draw him into the st. benedict's web of abuse. or am i missing another twist in the path?
ReplyDeleteAlso 16.36, he was the proud owner of a rare Citroen DS convertable which he drove to France each year for his family holiday.
ReplyDeleteViz and a Citroen DS - an eclectic chap.
There's something for the weekend.
i rather coveted the castle (and his wife wasn't bad either)
ReplyDeleteOne for the unfaithful and the faithful:
ReplyDelete"I only can properly enjoy Christmas carol services if I am having an illicit affair with someone in the congregation. Why is this? Perhaps because they are essentially pagan, not Christian, celebrations."
A Clark (Dec'd).
17.03. "There's something for the weekend". are you welsh? if so you missed out "look you" from the end of your post.
ReplyDeleteThis blog is becoming more human/humane by the hour. Great! For God's sake, please keep it up!
ReplyDelete18.21. are you in fact a clark (the "e" seems to be silent)if so it is true what we are told!
ReplyDeleteShe is delightful, and the castle is not bad either.
ReplyDeleteThis blog has become human/humane (see above) according to one poster, only because it has ventured into new territory and 'off topic.'
ReplyDelete"Keep it up" = No more criticism St Benedict's please.
N'uff said.
QED.
Cometh the hour (monday) cometh the ?!
Darlings what IS going on? All these wild Celtic fantasies! I feel sure poor Mr. West has had to retire to his bed. This is truly dreadful, where HAVE all those adorably pompous commentators gone? Do remember, this is a deadly serious blog for angry, tortured-cum-torturous souls. I even find myself yearning for those good old 'supercilious comments from subject illiterate contributors'. Phew, what a lovely phrase! So, let's get back to serious business, okay?
ReplyDeletequite. enough already of this light hearted banter! back to the myopic hate, bile and vitriol towards st.benedict's and all who have and do sail in her.....
ReplyDeleteWhat are we told 18.21? With Clark it could be so many things, it might even make a book.
ReplyDeleteYou cannot libel him and you are posting anonymously so let's hear it.
‘Cometh the hour (monday) cometh the ?!’ (21:22)
ReplyDeleteThere, in one small phrase, you have the essence of far too much of this blog! It has become an arena for those seeking revenge, those who smell blood and are out for the kill or simply enjoy dancing on graves!
We all recognise that things have gone seriously wrong at St Benedict’s. But that should be cause for regret, regret even where two - perhaps eventually more - men are subject to judicial judgement and punishment, regret that we see all too clearly mirrored here our own frailty and inadequacy.
In the light of such regret there should, surely, be a determination to put matters right, as far as humanly possible, and to encourage the abbey to do a much better job, to sort out its multiple responsibilities - not least to the Rule of St Benedict and the children in its care.
But what we get is anything but regret. We get an easily recognisable delight in our ability to highlight human failure and our no less facile urge to demand punishment be meted out to as many (others) as possible.
There is much ill-will on this blog and precious little of the good, wholesome variety. Perhaps, one or two of its contributors stand in as much need of re-education as those they so gleefully condemn.
i am thinking of starting a class action against the school as I was not "fiddled" with. was i not blond, cute or biddable enough? it has ruined my self-confidence and scarred me for life! anyone care to join?
ReplyDeletecourt 7, monday, 14.00hr - afternoon out; perhaps you can all go along with your knitting, mais oui?
ReplyDeletejohn 8:7
ReplyDeleteRe: 11:35
ReplyDeleteFrom what I have read, this site is unique.
Mr West and his out-and-out supporters are palpably without sin. Sin - a turning away form universal principles to ones of pure self-interest.
The abuse is very real, the concerns are very real, as I can confirm as an ex-St Benedict's pupil. I am highly entertained by some of these comments. They keep readers coming. In essence, I see this blog as a main source of information as to what is happening. By spreading awareness, it is indirectly helping justice. I am aware that not everybody was abused at St Benedict's but this does not make it right that some were. I also think that the contamination probably remains and needs widespread exposure to help combat it.
ReplyDeleteJohn 8:7
ReplyDeleteYes, 11.35, clearly, Mr West and his allies operate under their own version of Sharia Law. Stoning to death is accordingly the Will of Allah. So there!
Lets all hold hands and skip to the courts on Monday........second thoughts that could be seen as abuse.
ReplyDeleteYes, 15:26, you're right. It would, in reality, be self-abuse.
ReplyDeletecertainly an abuse of good taste....
ReplyDelete10.02’s post is woeful.
ReplyDeleteYou are assuming those in court on Monday will be found guilty. I (21,22) do not make this assumption hence the question mark. We will have to await the pleas, or the judgement having heard the evidence. I have been in court on this subject as a plaintiff. I speak from experience and the statement I make at 21.22 is non-judgmental to any open minded reader.
Sadly you have a default non-understanding of child abuse. All you are doing is defending an institution – nothing more or less. But your understanding of child abuse and its dynamics in an institutional setting is lamentable. You do not know what you don’t know, but of course speech, even on this site, is free and so you are entitled to comment, even from the slough of ignorance.
The most important people the school needs to listen to are the abusees from St Benedict's. Until this happens, and the institution demonstrates a will to see effective and enduring change, we can hope for little.
Is progress being made by Carlile who is going through the appearance of listening despite his inexperience of the subject?
Who knows? There is no interim report for us to see – the entire process will be presented as a fait accompli no doubt to the sound of a marching band and fireworks. But, on paper this is not the man for the job. It has been said before – there are many better in whom one could have confidence because of their extensive experience of the subject.
The trust has already therefore cocked up the exercise and this prompts onlookers to place even more question marks over the integrity of the trustees. It agrees to appoint a mate of Nelson’s to ‘review’ matters. Why? The alleged expert Dr Kevin McCoy revealed in the emails from the last strand is nowhere to be seen and has reportedly not been at St Benedict’s. So Carlile is doing things without the benefit of expert guidance. Nelson is defending Pearce. The national advertising which the school promised, seeking contributors for the Carlile review totaled two advertisements only. One in the local paper which is next to pointless, and an unreadable advertisement in the (national edition) of The Telegraph which had you know it was there was so hard to find because it was booked in the smallest point size – purposefully.
These actions suggest that the management of the trust is not serious about change. Part of the problem is that this is a small inward looking group of people who think no one has a right to comment on what it does or how it does it. When the whole edifice is built on the revenue generated from commercially selling an education service, you cannot whinge when people object to child sexual abuse. After all the school trust knew precisely what it was doing when it failed to return the statutory notifications to the DfE, and when it had a safeguarding policy provided by its solicitors (Veale Wasborough) which knowingly conveniently guaranteed that no abuse needed to be reported to anyone.
The current policy continues in this vein- nothing needs to be reported. Both school solicitors must know this – one of them after all is the author. The policy is contrary to the protocols of the London and Ealing Safeguarding Boards. It is a policy of no benefit to pupils. This is indefensible
The attitude of posters is likely to change when there is clear evidence of change from the top down. The doors need to be opened and a large shovel employed to clear the weak, amoral dross from the place, then credible and sustained safeguarding changes put in place and the who lot independently monitored for four years.
i think a broom is more appropriate
ReplyDelete10.02 here. it is called humour. it may be black humour but none the less humour...
ReplyDeleteWhat a lovely word = woeful.
ReplyDeleteNot sure about '10:02's post', but reading through 16:34 at once brought some lines from *Romeo and Juliet* to mind:
"O woe! O woeful, woeful, woeful day!
Most lamentable day. Most woeful day
That ever, ever I did yet behold!
O day, O day, O day! O hateful day!
Never was seen so black a day as this.
O woeful day! O woeful day!"
-Romeo and Juliet, 4.5
"for never was there a story of more woe,
ReplyDeletethan that of st.benedcit's and the pedo's"
The failure to make notifications is, in many ways,the most serious failure, we can't ever be sure if any more got away.
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ReplyDeleteBloggers, especially those like 11:05, take your thoughts, regrets, fears or what-have-yous directly to the source of your anxiety - the doors of Ealing Abbey. Go on! Stop moaning in this discreet neck of the woods and beard the lion in its den.
What poetry 8:43! Your choice of subject! That of a truly poetic soul; a mind, clearly, centred on all things fine, noble and good! Wonderful! Do let us have more! We need such inspiration.
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200 Abusees speak out. A harder focus US programme on the subject of child sexual abuse from the child's perspective.
Identical twin brothers were subjected to years of clerical sexual abuse.
It is very pleasing to see victims of abuse openly voicing their experiences. There are several positive aspects to speaking out one of which is that the perpetrator can no longer depend the victims silence to conceal the crime.
Big day! I assume all you who seek vengance have your sandwiches packed, knitting needles sharpened and are awaiting the charabanc to take you for your day trip to Isleworth.
ReplyDeleteEnjoy your day!
Yes, like 08:18, I wish you all great joy. This is your big day so don't let any thoughts of compassion, understanding, self-doubt, self-scrutiny, etc. spoil it.
ReplyDeleteOh dear the schizophrenic author and his alter ego are posting just before lessons again.
ReplyDelete“A psychiatrist for the man in the corduroy jacket please!”
corduroy jacket? this isn't the "history boys". this is the tale of simple benedictine folk and their extra curricular activities, which looks like it might run forever and ever......
ReplyDeleteGoodness gracious... some people have the most insane idea of sanity!
ReplyDeleteHe an (W)alter ego returns again. Blinded to the misguided belief that the institution can do no wrong, the man speaks logically - "doctor."
ReplyDeletesanity is tied to the structural fit or lack of it between our reactions to the world and what is actually going on in the world. note, "what is actually going on..."
ReplyDeletewhereas paranoia, is a mental illness in which a delusional belief is the sole or most prominent feature.
"if the cap fits"
12.03 - have you no comment on any of the well argued comments @ 16.34.
ReplyDeletethe institution is an inanimate object and can do no wrong, the people within in it may and they have to be rooted out of course...
ReplyDeleteHow refreshing to see what a healthy dash of humour can do. Over the past week or so the style of this blog, on both sides of the argument, has improved a hundredfold. I only hope the renters and ravers aren't encouraged back by Mr West's next posting for February. Surely, even Mr West has learned by now that encouraging such responses is essentially counter-productive.
ReplyDeleteThis is amazing. Clearly tempers are running high on both sides. On one side we have those who are looking to make changes to safeguard the school from the abuse, mainly sexual abuse, of kids at the school. Many of these are victims, friends of victims from their time at the school, or in some cases parents of pupils at the school. Whilst some of these people may not communicate their message to the liking of St Ben's, their intention is honourable.
ReplyDeleteOn the other side we have the defenders of the realm. Rather than accept there has been sexual abuse, and other abuse, at the school for over 60 years, and make changes to safeguard future pupils, they look to ignore the case, undermine those making a stand (or mock them) and hide away pretending nothing is wrong (whilst knowing there are serious problems that need rectification).
Publicity and interest is mounting on this, and soon enough it will be out in the wider public.
I honestly never thought I would see the day when some of the Paedophile Priests and Teachers would be facing the courts - I really didn't. For years it was accepted that they would just get away with it and be absolved of their sins by a friendly Abbott.
What no update after a day in court! It must have been over-exciting and cold showers all round I suspect. Sends a tremble to 'yer knees.
ReplyDeleteMr West is in fact an upstanding selfless intelligent person. The Church can think of nothing to defend themselves with but to say that he mad.. To believe in people flying around space with wings on is MAD.Sexually assaulting children and expecting to get away with it is MAD.
ReplyDeleteIts pretty mad defending people in court who eat other inmates snot and raw poo.
To put yourself in a position of eating raw poo is utterly crazy.
Hopefully The benedictine order of the holy spoon of raw poo membership is rising .
I have a vision of benedictines free to eat other prisoners snot and raw poo in every gaol in the land.
15.51 - over 60 years now! it was 40 earlier. no doubt the abuse really goes back over 200 years if we dug deep enough.
ReplyDeleteThere are NO defenders of the realm. Where are your arguments, is the cry? There are no arguments in favour of child abuse or in defence of those who might have turned a blind eye. You, 'on the one side', have completely missed the point. You are fooling yourselves. But to what end? What IS attacked is the tone and calibre of your arguments, can't you see that?
ReplyDeleteThe 12.15 contribution provides an insight into why, in the eyes of the faithful, the Church can do no wrong. With this tenet established, any criticism can be summarily rejected.
ReplyDeleteThese protocols are shared with among others the Unification Church.
Mr West he not mad - he insane!
ReplyDelete00.08. er right. shows perhaps that posting after midnight is not always a good idea...
ReplyDeleteGreat to see that the sophistication of Mr West's support is reaching new heights. I doubt, though, that 00.08 will ever be surpassed. :-)
ReplyDeleteYes, Mr West is getting the kind of support he richly deserves.
ReplyDeleteKnock....
ReplyDeletemock....
abuse, deride, detract, disparage, and sneer all you like.
.........but you discuss nothing about the sickness that has existed in the school for so long. All you want to do is silence the criticism - you have no chance of achieving that.
I am sure Mr West will no doubt thank you for the stirling work you have done to raise his modest blog so far up the Google ratings. You really ought to take a look.
What on earth is there to DISCUSS, 18:17? It's like discussing the virtues of Wednesday as opposed to Thursday!
ReplyDeleteThis, of course, is why this blog is replete with mindless repetition. Take a good look! You're really not *discussing* anything in a significant way!
By the by, only folks like you and Mr West care about really important things like 'Google ratings'!
Why are you so angry when you have nothing to be angry about?
ReplyDeleteSo, what is your proposal to resolve systematic child abuse that has been permitted to occur at St Benedict's, by consecutive administrations, for decades?
The floor is yours.
Well you should think about Google ratings given the scale of your activities on this site and the effect it has every time St Benedict's is googled by a prospective parent.
ReplyDeleteYou are showing your age!
Goodnight, say your prayers, you need to.
Sleep well.
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ReplyDeleteGoogle, google little star..up above the world so high..bless them all in search of pie. Yes, reading through some of the comments posted by your friends, 20:40, parents and others will be praying - hard - that, however their kids grow up, they in no way resemble the likes of you. 'Obtuse' is, I think, the most appropriate word.
Come now 21.31/18.45 you've contributed nothing to the solution. The floor is yours - let's hear your ideas.
ReplyDeleteThe proposal to resolve systematic child abuse that has been permitted to occur at St Benedict's, by consecutive administrations, for decades?
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ReplyDeleteUnlike you 22:28, I do not imagine that I'm expert in such matters. Furthermore the suggestions that have already been proposed on this site and quite a long time ago in fact, seem more than adequate. On this Mr West has done an excellent job and, 22:28, has done so more or less single handed!
08:53 - Well i that case I look forward to the school implementing my recommendations which you so clearly approve of. There is no sign of it as yet. Perhaps you would like to add your voice and name to mine in order to persuade the school to modify its safeguarding procedures so that they are fit for purpose?
ReplyDeleteSo do I sir! Your recommendations are simply common sense, I would have thought. However, contrary to what you seem to imagine, I for one have no connection with the school whatsoever. My interest is, to coin a phrase, 'justice for all'. r.
ReplyDeleteBlimey - prepare the bunting and let's hope Carlile continues to tune in!
ReplyDeleteIn my time at the school, not too long ago, we had the following:-
ReplyDelete1) Priest videoing boys in the shower.
2) Priest drying boys after swimming, with particular attention paid to the genitals. After all, dont all boys need help drying that area??
3) Priest "helping" boy go for a wee.
4) Teachers threatening pupils with fisticuffs.
At least these are the events I know of. Did more take place? Possible.
No child protection measures have been significantly advanced since this time so the potential threat is still there.